tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4198693124678067586.post8913671500378668460..comments2023-03-24T05:51:43.167-05:00Comments on Rioting Mind: TF - Chapter 5 - Allegory and Real True HistoryBeamStalkhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17772110446629492132noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4198693124678067586.post-48687856487143759382011-03-29T03:54:17.122-05:002011-03-29T03:54:17.122-05:00"But although it's dirty work, I guess so..."But although it's dirty work, I guess someone has to do it."<br />has to do it as some kind of defensive resource?<br />i personally can't follow much of the biblical stuff (I've also come across Islamic stuff. looks about the same to me.) it makes my brain glaze over.Propaganda's Antimatternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4198693124678067586.post-7730337528915937962010-02-24T14:15:52.477-06:002010-02-24T14:15:52.477-06:00A lot of people will quote Thomas Aquinas for crea...A lot of people will quote Thomas Aquinas for creation, but they take him out of context (big shocker). Aquinas was arguing against people whom believed in an eternal universe. In the end, both were right and both were wrong. Matter is eternal but there was a definite start of space/time.<br /><br />Aquinas also differentiated between change and creation. Creation had to be ex nihlo and change always started with something. He insisted that the universe came about from creation but change could take place after creation. The Greek philosophies at the time insisted the universe was eternal because nothing could produce nothing.<br /><br />Aquinas also had the idea, also later put forth by Gould, of NOMA (non-overlapping magisteria). That science and religion do not conflict.<br /><br />I find Aquinas very interesting but I couldn't really work him into this piece.BeamStalkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17772110446629492132noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4198693124678067586.post-58592476591596110642010-02-24T14:03:35.606-06:002010-02-24T14:03:35.606-06:00I still don't know how a story can be figurati...I still don't know how a story can be figurative and be true. These two things just don't work together, like omniscience and free-will.BeamStalkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17772110446629492132noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4198693124678067586.post-34677801691649113262010-02-24T14:00:49.034-06:002010-02-24T14:00:49.034-06:00You're a real glutton for punishment, aren'...You're a real glutton for punishment, aren't you, Beams? But although it's dirty work, I guess someone has to do it. Thanks.<br /><br />And thanks for the quotes. I knew that one from Augustine, but the Origen one was new to me. Smart guys. Smarter than a lot of people nowadays who have far less excuse to be so willfully ill-informed.zilchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01695741977946935771noreply@blogger.com